Could the Greens or Libertarians tip the election?

 
BY:John Bachtell| August 16, 2016
Could the Greens or Libertarians tip the election?

The sprint is on to Election Day. Since the GOP convention, which adopted its most reactionary platform ever, alarm has grown over the threat to democracy posed by Donald Trump, his appeal to hate and fear and policies that would cleave the nation and violate the constitution. While Trump has suffered some self-inflicted wounds over the last week a lot can happen between now and November. In these circumstances, are there really any “safe” blue states? Read more.

Comments (15)

Rino Della Negra | September 14, 2016 at 8:22 PM

Greetings from France

Myke Simonian | September 12, 2016 at 3:42 AM

First of all, I encourage everyone on this thread to read the following piece:

http://www.cpusa.org/article/neoliberalism-and-the-fascist-danger-a-reply-to-some-left-critics/#comment-1485

Roman — Gary, Tim — it depends what you want to do. It its most successful period, the CPUSA maybe had 100,000 members — I’m talking about the 1930s-40s. Not exactly a gigantic left political party. Yet, on that backbone was built a much vaster movement — Unemployed Councils, the CIO, anti-racist organizations. And gravitating toward that critical mass were liberal and center-of-the-road groups.

THAT is what we need to have our eyes on. We are never, ever, going to build a revolutionary party — ‘Party for Socialism and Liberation’ ‘Green Party’ ‘Socialist Workers Party’ ‘Workers World Party’ ‘Socialist Alternative Party’ etc — that takes on such a mass character.

In fact, you are missing the whole point when you speak like that. ‘Socialism’ is not some religion or sect: FIRST we get a huge revolutionary party and THEN we win. It is a set of reasonable answers that can appeal to reasonable people based on their daily experience of life. It is a process of quantity into quality. There are breaking points. There are game-changers. We are living through such a moment now. Obama in 2008 was a game-changer. So was 2010 (in a negative sense). Sanders was a game-changer. And defeating Trump will be another game changer.

Tim | August 22, 2016 at 6:35 PM

Do you actually want to turn America Communist, even after what happened to the USSR and every other communist nation?

    Joe Sims | August 25, 2016 at 3:33 PM

    The USSR is not our model of socialism just like Germany under Hitler is not the model for capitalism. We support a socialism with the constitution and bill of right, “Bill of Rights Socialism.

Garry | August 20, 2016 at 9:49 AM

You should be ashamed !!
Communists voting for Clinton is the ultimate “sin”, she rigged the primaries , stole the nomination from Sanders and now she is threatening everybody with the Trump card.
Do not fall into her “Democratic” trap , I mean what else you want to hear in order to realize she is corrupt to the bone?
What are the guaranties she will stick to the platform? (None what so ever)
She is representing the 0.1% it’s crystal clear.
Vote for Jill swing-state or not, choose the greater good instead of the lesser evil…

    Roman | August 25, 2016 at 5:16 PM

    I think it would be better to vote for Party for Socialism and Liberation candidate.

      Joe Sims | August 25, 2016 at 6:26 PM

      But that’s because you don’t accept that with Trump we have a danger of a different type. And I’m sorry but the fact that we have emphasized this choice for the last few elections does not make it less true. Capitalism is reaction all down the line. The danger has in fact grown worse with each election and now Trump.

    Roman | August 25, 2016 at 5:19 PM

    It would be better for communists to support Party for Socialism and Liberation candidate.

      joe sims | September 07, 2016 at 4:16 PM

      That would result in throwing away the vote.

      WDuncan | September 07, 2016 at 8:43 PM

      I’ll repeat what Joe said, with the hopes that you will read it this time:

      But that’s because you don’t accept that with Trump we have a danger of a different type. And I’m sorry but the fact that we have emphasized this choice for the last few elections does not make it less true. Capitalism is reaction all down the line. The danger has in fact grown worse with each election and now Trump.

    James Allinson | September 06, 2016 at 2:15 AM

    Vote for trump if you believe in torturing prisoners, killing the families of terrorists,spreading and using nuclear weapons, if you agree with the way he has dehumanized minorities. His tax plan is to give big tax breaks to the wealthy and a small tax break to the working class to pacify them. If that suits your intellect vote for him but don’t cry and moan about it later..

Ryan Kirby | August 17, 2016 at 4:07 AM

What about the Red States? You did not mention those. Trump is a personal friend of the Clintons and a decoy to elect Hillary. I am not afraid of Trump. As Fascist as he is, the Working Class might get fed up and cease to do nothing. The Bernie Sanders movement has overwhelmingly endorsed Jill Stein as the movement is witness the worst of the Clinton Campaign that you can see on YouTube. Bernie may have endorsed Hillary, but Bernie’s Movement endorses Jill. Bernie’s Movement has not died unlike those Hillary had murdered. Those of us who were welcomed into the Democratic Party have to not endorse Jill, but Hillbots will continue to have an ear full of dissidence from Berners who for the time being remain to help steer the Democrats to a socialist platform.

    John Bachtell | September 08, 2016 at 5:42 PM

    The same applies to Red States. First, we should be careful how we define that. Such so-called traditional Red States like Texas, Georgia and Arizona are now seen as tossups. But again, the most important things is focusing on building the broad democratic movement. Communist activists should be in the middle of building relationships, working shoulder to shoulder with labor and community allies to register, educate and get out the vote. This is the coalition that will be necessary to build for winning and any future changes, big and small.

    Voting for Jill Stein absents communist activists and others from this process.

Frank Wagner | August 16, 2016 at 4:30 PM

We can defeat Trump as a political candidate in November but defeating the bigotry and racism his movement represent will be a longer and harder fight.

    Roberta Wood | August 16, 2016 at 5:53 PM

    I agree with that. But I am encouraged to see a large multi racial movement focused on defeating bigotry. This is really something to build on!

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